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Offline Scott Doyle

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New Headstamps
« on: October 12, 2005, 12:22:22 AM »
David Wright is updating the AFTE Headstamp Guide that can be found here

We welcome new submissions and those can be attached to posts in this forum.  Please pay close attention to the quality of the image being used and try to copy this format as closely as possible.

Include in your post as much information about the manufacturer as possible.

We hope to build one of the best headstamp guides on the net!  With your help this shouldn't be too hard.

Thanks!

Offline Chris Monturo

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 09:29:27 AM »
It would be an excellent opportunity for an intern to learn information about various headstamps while helping the discipline.  It probably won't be until next summer, but I'll have our next intern sift through the ammo collection and upload some of our samples.

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 10:02:08 AM »
Here's an example of how you can contribute:

Headstamp found on cartridges marketed as Silver Bear
Manufactured by Ulyanovsk Machine Tool Plant (Russia)
Imported by Zanders’ Sporting Goods
http://www.gzanders.com/bearammo/

This headstamp will be added to a new "Symbols" album in the Headstamp Gallery
http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/gallery/Headstamp-Gallery

 


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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2005, 10:18:03 AM »
We have installed updated software for the AFTE Headstamp gallery and David has been working hard at adding new headstamps and manufacturer info.

The updated gallery can be found at:

http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/gallery2/v/Headstamp-Gallery/

You can also click the headstamp in the upper right corner to reach the new headstamp gallery.

Thanks David for your continued hard work on this resource!

Scott

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2005, 12:43:05 PM »
Richard,

I would guess that David will replace poorer quality images with better ones.  That will be a time dependent thing.  Most look pretty good now!  But there's always room for improvement!

For your second question, I suspect your PC screen resolution is only 800x600.  The width of the gallery was probably too wide, causing you to have to scroll from the right to the left.  I modified the layout a little to reduce the column width from 4 to 3 and the rows from 3 to 2.  That will hopefully allow the full width of the album to show up in your browser window.  Let me know if that didn't fix your problem. 

Thanks for helping out!

Merry Christmas!

Scott

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2005, 12:06:22 AM »
Scott,

Thanks for modifying the layout of the gallery.  It's much better on my computer now.  You are probably right about the settings on my computer.  I'm not a computer smart kind of person.

I agree that most of the photos are pretty good quality already.  A very few leave a little to be desired, but that is in no way a reflection on you or David.  Those are the photos that were submitted.  They are not photos either of you took yourselves.  I, for one, appreciate your efforts.  You guys do a great service for AFTE.

Merry Christmas,

Richard
« Last Edit: December 25, 2005, 12:10:04 AM by Richard Hitchcox »
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2006, 08:17:40 AM »
David Wright is doing a great job of updating the Headstamp Gallery.  There are numerous headstamps in the gallery now.  If anyone is trying to identify a headstamp, it's worth giving a look in the gallery before looking elsewhere for the information.  The new layout is much more user friendly too. 

Many thanks to David for all of his time and effort that has gone into expanding and updating the gallery. O0

Richard
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 11:40:47 AM »
#1 Evansville Ordinance Plant: Operated by the Chrysler Corporation in Evansville, IN from 1942 to 1943.

#2-3 Winchester Repeating Arms Co: primer stamped with W non-fulminate primer produced between 1908-1923

#4 Sovereign Tigercat 22LR HV 40 gr. Lead Bullets: Made in Mexico by Industrias Tecnos, S.A. de C.V. and distributed in the U.S.A. by Southern Gun Distributors, Opa-Locka, Fl.
Ashely Northcutt
Mesa Police Department Firearms Unit

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Offline Mike Barnes

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2006, 05:56:29 PM »
Here is a headstamp:

Precision Ammunicion, LLC
Firefrangible
"A plated lead-free frangible ammunition"
Mike Barnes
California Dept. of Justice
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2006, 12:22:59 PM »
This one isn't new by far.  It's 7.9mm German.  From what I've found T-cresent-C is for the Turkish Republic and the FS means "fisek" (Turkish for bullet). 

Manufacturer?  Maybe Akeri?
Doug Lancon


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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2006, 12:55:44 AM »
This is exactly what we need!  Why pay for guides when we see headstamps every day, and someone knows something about them...be it an examiner or a tech advisor.  If we do this right, and everyone gets involved, this can be the place for all of us to come to FIRST to start our search!

Of course, in order for me to post images, I've got to get IT to install email and office on my Mideo station.  I will work on that!  :)

You all have my vote on the importance of this Forums feature!

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Offline Brandon Bertolli

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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2006, 04:44:28 PM »
NGA
(New Generation Ammunition)
South Africa

By the way I don't have proper imaging facilities for headstamps but I recon a flatbed scanner can have its uses  8)
« Last Edit: May 11, 2006, 04:49:07 PM by Brandon Bertolli »
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2006, 05:40:52 PM »
Brandon,

If you've got a Point n Shoot digital camera, you can sometimes put it right up to the eyepiece of your comp. scope and zoom a bit to frame the cartridge better. 

It works well with my canon powershot (older than dirt). 

That scanner seems to work just fine, though. 8)
Doug Lancon


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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2006, 07:58:03 PM »
Doug,

I am not a Firearms/Toolmarks Examiner (although I reckon maybe that was my missed calling). So I don't have a comparison microscope or even access to one. What I've got is various cartridge components and forensic items as relates to gunshot wounds which is my main interest. I am a radiographer.
But as several AFTE members have helped me with information in the past, I will also help if it is possible for me to do so.
BTW one disadvantage of the flatbed: if the case has been fired and the pin impression makes a raised berm then the case may not sit level on the glass. That's what happened with that NGA case and I had to 'steer' it level with a pencil during scanning.
I have other cartridge cases but unfortunately I don't know the manufacturer. These are .223 Rem cases from an SLR course with the police back home in SA. They are probably South African but that's all I know. If anyone thinks they will be of use I can scan them too, just let me know.
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Re: New Headstamps
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2006, 09:08:13 PM »
Brandon,

If you have other headstamps that are not already in the headstamp gallery, please do go ahead and post them and let someone else identify them.

Your scanning of the headstamp was quite ingenious.  I wouldn't have thought of doing it that way.

Richard
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